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March 04, 2009

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Eilat

Bravo, Hermine!
I guess you'll not be going back to that group again, huh? ;-)

I have to admit, I never thought of the word "boob" as offensive in that way, but these women should see how fabulous my boobs are after nursing Ronen until he was 3 and now Navah. (although I am fighting off a nasty bout of mastitis right now!!!)

relevant story:
We were traveling back from hawaii yesterday and yaniv was carrying navah in the baby bjorn as we got on the crowded terminal change bus. This little (very) old lady peeked in and looked very concerned (like you shouldn't take a baby that young out of the house!) We had lots of bags and were pooped (I had a fever) and she said to yaniv "did you have to take her with you? you couldn't leave her with grandparents?" And I replied "how else could we go, I am her food!" People on the bus chuckled and the old lady looked uncomfortable. "can't you switch to a bottle for a couple of weeks?" she asked, adding, "some people do that." I shook my head "Nope. It doesn't work that way."

I would have been angrier, but she was like 80 years old and it occurred to me that in her day women were knocked out for birth. babies came out with forceps and a shot was given to dry up the milk before a woman even saw her baby for the first time come out of the nursery.

Clearly, weve got a long way to go.

Christina

Speaking of boobs, I'm surrounded by them. I'm still nursing Aidan at 14.5 months and I've heard nothing from my female (and married male) colleagues but how I really should have cut Aidan off from breastfeeding at 6 months. Every single time the topic of breastfeeding comes up at work, I inevitably have to hear about stories of some woman who has nursed her child until he was 9 or 10. Whenever I head off to the mother's pumping room, I have a colleague who bellows "MOO" at me. Welcome to my world!

Mary Kay

Another instance of women being their own worst enemy. Is this why we still have such a long way to go? How about the fact that you didn't get right up in their face? Good for you for just rolling out the marzipan frog arms and thinking what boobs they were!

Shaun

Your baby's health is the ONLY reason one should ever offer for nursing. All remaining reasons are selfish, or worse, vain.

Strong people need to continually reiterate this sound bite to change the norm because there is simply no argument against it. Any remaining discussion or "reasons" are background noise that distracts us from the premise of the health of the most treasured thing in our lives. Hopefully this reason alone can help women weather the mainstream pressure of other positions.

That said, I would like to comment on some of the other "reasons" given for not nursing, until at LEAST age two (recommended by the World Health Organization):
Women need to have a firmer grip on their self-worth. It seems women readily sacrifice their baby's health so some random male they don't even know might debase them in a bar to another male with a "she's got a nice rack" comment. Isn't that what this all comes down to? We must be honest with precisely what we are seeking. So males on the beach will approach us because of our "tits"? Do we actually want to attract those types of males? So we too can feed the breast complex in this over-sexualized country? So we too can perpetuate an unrealistic standard of women? So we can "keep" the attention of our partners? Maybe the effort would have been better spent giving our partners a recommended reading list to help them overcome their breast complex if they had not already done this work before you agreed to marry them. In which case, your child shouldn't suffer for your poor judgment. Particularly if you have a daughter together, you would certainly being doing her a service, by educating the man you chose to be in her life.

Most other reasons, such “I’m doing it for myself”, are circular and still boil down to those listed above. Why does having breasts that conform to standards in Playboy make us feel good about ourselves? And then you break that down, etc.

Eilat

I'm not sure I agree with Shaun about the role of breasts or valid reasons for breastfeeding. I dont see any problem with breasts being dual purpose organs. I love my breasts for the food they make to grow my babies, for the way they soothe and comfort my babies and for the way they look in (and out of) a push-up bra. The best parallel would be the mouth (or lips) which can be and extremely sexual body part (e.g., kissing, etc.) but also a very basic functioning organ (eating, breathing).
I also disagree that the health benefits are the best argument for breastfeeding. Just consider the latest garbage from the Atlantic Monthly. Its so easy for someone wanting to dispute the health benefits to argue that studies are biased, etc. They may be wrong, but they end up putting breastfeeding on the defensive. You hear it all the time: "I wasnt breastfed and I went to Harvard", etc. The best argument for breastfeeding, in my mind, is that we are mammals and that breastfeeding is the normal way that our species is supposed to feed its young. period. That argument puts formula feeding on the defensive, where it belongs.
Just my 2 cents :-)

Hermine

I can get behind the claim that the only reason a mother needs to give for breast-feeding is that it is best for the baby's health. But I wouldn't say that it is the only reason a mother Should give, or that other reasons are less valid or supportable.

And even the first claim depends on how you define "baby's health." It is more true if it includes the baby's psychological health. The benefits of breast-feeding go way beyond the nutritional values that the scientists are (more or less) capable of measuring. The most valuable benefit of breast-feeding may be the fact that it links food and love in a foundational way for the baby. It demonstrates that the Earth (manifest in Mama) can sustain you in a way that is all about reciprocal love. Breast-feeding is so much more than breast-milk. It is a full-body experience for baby and, yes, for mother.

So, speaking of self-worth-- I wonder when women will reject the idea that it is selfish or vain to enjoy the pleasures of mothering, including enjoying breast-feeding and enjoying a happy and supported birth. The idea that valuing those experiences is selfish tends to include an implicit assertion that mothers are at odds with their babies' interests for wanting these things.

It's like that statement all pregnant mothers have heard: "All that matters is a healthy baby in the end." Meaning, "All that matters is that the baby survives the birth." Which includes the implicit: "The quality of the baby's birth doesn't matter." If the mother pursues the support to enable a natural birth, she's "selfish." When, the reality is,

1) the goal of a natural and supported birth is better for mother AND baby-- so she's actually pursuing the baby's best interest, in a way that those who treat its birth experience as irrelevant are not, and

2) in fact: the mother's experience DOES matter. Her memory of the birth will reverberate through the rest of her life, and will also shape her psychological condition in the critical days and weeks following the birth. She's not selfish or vain for caring about her experience. not to mention

3) nobody cares more about a live baby at the end than the mother. So it is just so insulting and myopic to "remind" the mothers who pursue a happy birth of this goal, when nobody on earth is thinking about it more than they are.

We're not senseless vessels (or "human potting soil," as the brilliant Katha Pollitt once put it: http://www.thenation.com/doc/19870523/19870523pollitt). We're not just tools for our baby's survival or optimal IQ score, or any man's hard-on. We're people, and sometimes we're mothers. If we can pursue our own genuine happiness-- and find the source of that happiness in our body and its knowledge, instead of some external authority-- it is safe to trust that we will naturally be pursuing our baby's happiness-- and health-- as well.

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